Yeah, but I never was a witness - it seems that witness still prefer to believe witnesses even if they're ex. It's not uncommon that they just don't like to hear the truth from never-witnesses.
But it seems I don't ever pursue practising witnesses - even at the door. Perhaps if they don't want to hear anything, why should I force them - not to say I don't rebuke them though, so I suppose that's a type of witness.
paduan